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People’s proximity, posture, movement and voice can change a repetition even when no physical training tool is used.
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Answer
A person is part of the setup. Standing close, stepping away, facing the dog, sitting down or changing the voice can alter the demand the dog experiences. Lola’s place example makes this especially concrete: the trainer says she is trying to get off because she is avoiding a nearby person. The useful adjustment is to give space, rather than assume the position needs a stronger correction.
Other examples deliberately use the handler’s presence. Bo’s trainer describes a place exercise completed with a marker and social pressure, without using the collar or leash. Bullet is asked to hold place while the handler sits and relaxes, so the posture change itself becomes something the dog must learn does not mean release. King’s down is tested while the trainer changes body position. These are different uses of the same broad variable: sometimes remove unnecessary pressure, sometimes teach the dog what a normal human movement means.
Voice and duration also matter in the lessons. The Roxy-and-Ramsey discussion distinguishes a brief emphatic communication from prolonged yelling. A quieter cue leaves volume available when needed. Calling something social does not establish that it is harmless or less significant to the dog; the question remains how the individual responds.
The dossier also reports two dogs stalling when crowded together. That observation is retained as an unresolved setup question rather than assigned a confident psychological explanation. This concept should help a family inspect room arrangement and human behavior, not encourage looming over a frightened dog or manufacturing confrontation.
Owner takeaway
When an exercise repeatedly goes wrong, inspect where people and other animals are standing, what your body is doing, and how long the interaction lasts. Ask the trainer to demonstrate an adjustment that makes the task clearer.
Across the cases
Lola
The selected excerpt omits the nearby person’s name and preserves the trainer’s explanation that avoidance of proximity is driving the place breaks.
She keeps avoiding you. That's why she's trying to get off, right?
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bo
The trainer explicitly credits the marker and social pressure, with collar and leash unused. A follow-up also names spatial pressure as effective with Bo.
I did not use any kind of physical negative reinforcement. That was all social pressure, which Bo responds really well to. So, my negative reinforcement was just the marker. Um, I didn't have to use the e-collar or the leash.
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And use a little spatial pressure because it's effective with him.
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Bullet
The trainer’s seated posture is part of the place lesson. Sniffing from the cot is allowed, so maintaining the boundary does not mean suppressing every movement.
we're gonna do that by using the place cut and I'm just gonna chill here with him and use a little bit of social pressure
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Good, he hangs his head off and sniffs, I'm not gonna get mad at him for that.
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King
The trainer squats while testing a held down. It is a change in human posture within the task, rather than an additional cue to get up.
I'm going to count, see how long he'll hold it down for here, probably been about 20 seconds so far, alright, squatting down didn't make him get up
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Roxy
The paired-dog lesson distinguishes quiet cues from louder communication and prolonged yelling. It also names social and physical consequences separately.
So, I do now train with a much low like I train with like I'm a lot quieter when I give them commands. But if they're over there, you can make it easier for them by like being louder.
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there's a big difference between me going like hey like louder and like being like hey like I'm mad like what the heck guys and saying that one sentence and then that's it. Versus, have you ever had somebody like yell at you for more than like 20 seconds? Have you ever had anybody yell at you for like two or three minutes?
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there's more than one way to increase the amount of like uh punishment that you get for it. like to make us feel too light. There's more than one way. So they are physical but they are also social.
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Louie
The trainer reports improved handling of social activity and public spaces. It is a progress report within that case, not a measured threshold for every interaction.
we're focusing on teaching them how to relax a little more with different noises and public area stuff that's like just more wide open um and wanting to go out and like sniff explore those areas and but still stay where he's checking in and paying attention
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his nervousness has definitely gone down a lot and he's able to interact better and handle more like social pressure and things like that which is really great
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Zeus
The trainer explicitly discusses duration as one dimension of pressure. This is recorded as a practitioner explanation, not adopted as an owner drill.
yell at me um and normally they don't last that long right but if somebody yelled at me for like a few like a few minutes like several minutes of yelling that's more that's a lot more there's a lot more pressure right um because of the duration even if the intensity doesn't change
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Source excerpts
She keeps avoiding you. That's why she's trying to get off, right?
Watch at 08:38 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
I did not use any kind of physical negative reinforcement. That was all social pressure, which Bo responds really well to. So, my negative reinforcement was just the marker. Um, I didn't have to use the e-collar or the leash.
Watch at 10:15 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
And use a little spatial pressure because it's effective with him.
Watch at 51:17 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
we're gonna do that by using the place cut and I'm just gonna chill here with him and use a little bit of social pressure
Watch at 00:35 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Good, he hangs his head off and sniffs, I'm not gonna get mad at him for that.
Watch at 01:55 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
I'm going to count, see how long he'll hold it down for here, probably been about 20 seconds so far, alright, squatting down didn't make him get up
Watch at 06:53 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
So, I do now train with a much low like I train with like I'm a lot quieter when I give them commands. But if they're over there, you can make it easier for them by like being louder.
Watch at 04:06 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
there's a big difference between me going like hey like louder and like being like hey like I'm mad like what the heck guys and saying that one sentence and then that's it. Versus, have you ever had somebody like yell at you for more than like 20 seconds? Have you ever had anybody yell at you for like two or three minutes?
Watch at 03:08 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
there's more than one way to increase the amount of like uh punishment that you get for it. like to make us feel too light. There's more than one way. So they are physical but they are also social.
Watch at 02:48 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
we're focusing on teaching them how to relax a little more with different noises and public area stuff that's like just more wide open um and wanting to go out and like sniff explore those areas and but still stay where he's checking in and paying attention
Watch at 00:20 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
his nervousness has definitely gone down a lot and he's able to interact better and handle more like social pressure and things like that which is really great
Watch at 00:59 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
yell at me um and normally they don't last that long right but if somebody yelled at me for like a few like a few minutes like several minutes of yelling that's more that's a lot more there's a lot more pressure right um because of the duration even if the intensity doesn't change
Watch at 42:44 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
How the trainers explain it
Proximity, orientation and voice can function as cues, distractions or aversive social events depending on the dog and context. The corpus shows both removing a spatial problem and deliberately varying posture to test understanding. It does not measure a single universal quantity called social pressure.
She keeps avoiding you. That's why she's trying to get off, right?
Watch at 08:38 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
I did not use any kind of physical negative reinforcement. That was all social pressure, which Bo responds really well to. So, my negative reinforcement was just the marker. Um, I didn't have to use the e-collar or the leash.
Watch at 10:15 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
we're gonna do that by using the place cut and I'm just gonna chill here with him and use a little bit of social pressure
Watch at 00:35 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
I'm going to count, see how long he'll hold it down for here, probably been about 20 seconds so far, alright, squatting down didn't make him get up
Watch at 06:53 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
So, I do now train with a much low like I train with like I'm a lot quieter when I give them commands. But if they're over there, you can make it easier for them by like being louder.
Watch at 04:06 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
This is a synthesis of the cited training record, not a controlled comparison or a measurement of the dog’s internal state.
Questions and answers
If I am not using the collar, is there no pressure?
Bo’s trainer explicitly describes social pressure with no collar or leash intervention. Human behavior still affects the event.
I did not use any kind of physical negative reinforcement. That was all social pressure, which Bo responds really well to. So, my negative reinforcement was just the marker. Um, I didn't have to use the e-collar or the leash.
Watch at 10:15 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Should I stand closer when the dog breaks place?
Not automatically. Lola’s example is interpreted as avoidance of a nearby person. First inspect whether your proximity is creating the problem.
She keeps avoiding you. That's why she's trying to get off, right?
Watch at 08:38 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Teaching outline
People’s proximity, posture, movement and voice can change a repetition even when no physical training tool is used.
Compare the Lola proximity example with Bullet’s seated-handler exercise. Describe why space is changed in one and posture is deliberately varied in the other. Keep any live practice within the dog’s existing trainer-guided plan.
She keeps avoiding you. That's why she's trying to get off, right?
Watch at 08:38 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
I did not use any kind of physical negative reinforcement. That was all social pressure, which Bo responds really well to. So, my negative reinforcement was just the marker. Um, I didn't have to use the e-collar or the leash.
Watch at 10:15 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
we're gonna do that by using the place cut and I'm just gonna chill here with him and use a little bit of social pressure
Watch at 00:35 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
I'm going to count, see how long he'll hold it down for here, probably been about 20 seconds so far, alright, squatting down didn't make him get up
Watch at 06:53 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
So, I do now train with a much low like I train with like I'm a lot quieter when I give them commands. But if they're over there, you can make it easier for them by like being louder.
Watch at 04:06 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Attributing a place break to the dog alone without inspecting nearby people.
Treating prolonged intensity of voice as equivalent to a brief clear message.
Is the person making the task clearer, supplying hidden help, or adding an unnecessary difficulty?
Common mistakes
Attributing a place break to the dog alone without inspecting nearby people.
She keeps avoiding you. That's why she's trying to get off, right?
Watch at 08:38 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Treating prolonged intensity of voice as equivalent to a brief clear message.
there's a big difference between me going like hey like louder and like being like hey like I'm mad like what the heck guys and saying that one sentence and then that's it. Versus, have you ever had somebody like yell at you for more than like 20 seconds? Have you ever had anybody yell at you for like two or three minutes?
Watch at 03:08 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Trainer notes
Proximity, orientation and voice can function as cues, distractions or aversive social events depending on the dog and context. The corpus shows both removing a spatial problem and deliberately varying posture to test understanding. It does not measure a single universal quantity called social pressure.
She keeps avoiding you. That's why she's trying to get off, right?
Watch at 08:38 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
I did not use any kind of physical negative reinforcement. That was all social pressure, which Bo responds really well to. So, my negative reinforcement was just the marker. Um, I didn't have to use the e-collar or the leash.
Watch at 10:15 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
we're gonna do that by using the place cut and I'm just gonna chill here with him and use a little bit of social pressure
Watch at 00:35 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
I'm going to count, see how long he'll hold it down for here, probably been about 20 seconds so far, alright, squatting down didn't make him get up
Watch at 06:53 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
So, I do now train with a much low like I train with like I'm a lot quieter when I give them commands. But if they're over there, you can make it easier for them by like being louder.
Watch at 04:06 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Source moments
Still to establish
Recheck the paired-dog crowding example and document its exact source before using it as an explanatory claim.
Source limitations
The source passage naming a family member is not copied; only the name-free exact excerpt is selected. Several dossier sightings use the term social pressure loosely, including physical guidance, so the draft does not treat all of them as the same mechanism.
Quotations are copied verbatim from the current local transcript, including transcription errors. Exact text matching does not independently verify the audio or identify a speaker.
The dossier is derived from existing Tier 1 and Tier 2 research; its broad-concept sighting cap may omit further examples. Dogs covered records reviewed dossier context, not a claim that every dog supplies equally strong evidence.
Equipment levels, inferred motives and outcome claims describe the cited case; they are not universal settings, diagnoses or independently established results.
Connected library collections
These links follow eligible video assignments in the reviewed library. A source can feature more than one animal; the older research-folder name is not used to merge identities.