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What are the words I actually have to remember?

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Three words for you - eh, good, okay - plus a second correction word, nope, because the dog needs to know whether he is being sent back into a command or told a behaviour is banned.

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Three words, and the trainers say so in almost those terms. Eh, the moment you do not like what she is doing. Good, while she is doing the right thing and must keep doing it. Okay, to let her go. One trainer tells an owner outright that this is the thing to drill into your head, and nothing else is required of you. The word that catches people out is the middle one. Good is not praise and it is not permission - it is a duration marker, which means you did the right thing and you are not free yet. Say good job instead of good and the dog hears the end of the exercise and gets up, which is why the trainers say the short version deliberately. Underneath those three there is a fourth word the trainers use constantly and which owners do get, sooner or later: nope. Eh and nope are both corrections and they are not interchangeable. Eh means go back into what you were doing - you left a position, return to it. Nope means that behaviour is not allowed at all. From outside they look identical, a word and then a tap of the collar, and one trainer says plainly that to you and me it is the same chain of events while to the dog it is two opposite instructions. Which one you choose is a judgement about what the dog will do next. The example given is chilling and clear: a dog who has just bitten another dog gets nope, because the softer marker after a bite would read to her as try that again, only better. The reason this matters more than it sounds is that the marker carries all the information. The collar tap is the same sensation either way, so the word in front of it is the entire difference between you are reinforcing a command and you are forbidding a behaviour. It also stops owners producing an undifferentiated stream of nope that the dog stops hearing - one trainer says the point is that you are not just out there going nope nope nope until it sounds like a game. What is inferred rather than said: nobody on camera tests whether dogs actually discriminate the two markers, and the claim that they read them as opposite instructions is asserted by several handlers and demonstrated by none. There is also a teaching error in the record worth knowing about - the four-quadrant block that sits behind all of this is taught to families with the tug example labelled the wrong way round - which does not change what you are told to do, but it does mean the theory in the lesson is not quite the theory in the textbook.

Owner takeaway

Learn three: eh the instant you do not like what he is doing, good while he is doing what you asked and must continue, okay to release him. Say good, not good job - good job sounds like the end and he will get up. Add nope for behaviours you want gone altogether: jumping, counters, anything you never want to see again. Whichever word you use, the word comes first and the collar follows it, every time.

Across the cases

Roxy

Roxy's second in-program lesson is the only place in the corpus where the owner's whole vocabulary is handed over as a list, and the trainer says it is the thing to drill into your head: eh when you dislike what she is doing, good when you like it and she must keep doing it, okay to release her. Later in the same session he comes back and gives good its own definition - a duration marker, said short, because good job is heard as the end and the dog gets up. That is the distinction owners break by accident and cannot diagnose afterwards, because from the inside it looks like a dog who will not hold a command. Roxy's file is also where the reason for the strictness is visible: she is described as a dog who arrived with no sense of context at all, so the words have to carry what context does not.

that's something you should like drill into your head. You don't like something she's doing, say, "Eh, get her stop." Right? If you like something she's eh, come figure out. If you like something she's doing, good. Good job. And then like if she's going to command her, okay, to release her, right?

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So all good is is what's called a duration marker. So good and said like good, not good job, right? Because then they're like and they're going to get up, right? Um but just straight like good, right? What that means is um you're you did it. You did good. You did the right thing. However, you still need to continue to do the thing.

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Stormie

Stormie's file contains the clearest statement of why the marker matters more than the correction does, and it is made twice by two different trainers about the same puppy. The first lesson gives the two-markers argument with its worked example: ant then collar and nope then collar look identical from outside, and to her brain they are opposite instructions - go back into that, or never do that again. The choice is then made concrete with a case the trainer had just finished, a sweet Rottweiler who had sent two of her own household's dogs to the emergency vet, where the softer marker after a bite would have read as an invitation to escalate. Two weeks later a different trainer gives the owners the same distinction from the other end - the practical one - which is that without it you produce an undifferentiated stream of nope that stops meaning anything and starts sounding like a game.

and again if you say ant verse e-collar and then nope verse e-collar it looks exactly the same except minus like one word to the outside but to her brain she's taking the info as two very different things

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so in that case i use the note marker because if she bit a dog and then i went ash to be like wait look again right i can do it a little bit worse than that yeah whereas if it's a nope it's like you can't do this like this is a it's not allowed i don't want to see it again

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right that way you're not just like out here being like and nope nope nope and it sounds like a game or something

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Deuce

Deuce is where the vocabulary meets the hardware, and it is the only place in the corpus where it does. The two marker words are introduced as the answer to an owner's implicit question - how does the dog know which is coming - and then, in the second half of the same visit, mapped onto the transmitter's two buttons: black carries the soft marker at a low stim, red carries nope and raises the value, because nope is a legitimate punishment. The trainer says he began doing this only recently, which makes it a dated piece of method evolution rather than a fixed rule. By the second lesson the instruction to the owners has narrowed to one button: use the black, never the red, which is for dogs that bite people, and never the vibrate - not because vibration is ineffective but because a marker followed by something the dog cannot feel teaches the marker to mean nothing. That is the sharpest small argument in the cluster.

the e-collar always comes after a word. So, how does the dog know if it's a reinforcement or a punishment if you don't specify? So, that is why we have two words. We have like our like our ain't kind of like somebody would do with their kid, right? And then we have like a nope.

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I've began utilizing it more so as of recently where I have the black one will be the and then the red's the nope.

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so just use this button right here just that black one right there we don't use the this side because that's just a vibrate and if you just do a vibrate the dog learns that the ant means nothing there's no point there's no negative averse of anything

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Luna

Luna's family gets the marker block twice, and hers is the file where the judgement around it is taught rather than just the rule. The order never varies - the word first, then the collar, so that the collar reads as a consequence of the word and does not attach itself to whatever else is in the room. The correction is assigned to a behaviour and sized to it, and the trainer says out loud that a nope for sniffing a table is a little extreme; for that he would use a redirect instead. He also tells the family, of a dog he has spent four weeks with, that they will barely ever need the punishment marker at all, because she does not do the kinds of things that warrant one - which is the only place in this cluster where a trainer scopes the vocabulary to the individual dog rather than issuing it whole. The delivery coaching is hers alone: the marker is not louder, it is sharper.

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Dutchess

Dutchess is where an owner pushes back, and the answer is the best short version of the whole idea. The objection is the obvious one: the collar looks the same in two situations that are supposed to be opposites, so how can it mean two things? The trainer's reply is that the chain of events is identical to you and to me and that the only difference is the word swapped - and then he gives the two worked examples on either side of it, the counter and the cot. Her first lesson is where the theory behind that comes from, delivered as the one thing to take away from the whole hour, and it is also where the theory goes slightly wrong: the tug example he uses to illustrate negative reinforcement is actually negative punishment. The same example, with the same error, turns up in another family's lesson weeks later.

that's why i went into all that like that sciencey stuff it looks exactly the same the only difference is the word swapped it looks like the same like chain of events to me or you but to her brain it's either a oh i did bad or i did like oh i should be doing this

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like for like the jumping on the counter that's a note because that's a behavior that you don't want to be like no you broke it like go back on the counter that's a don't get on the counter again bad behavior nope versus not her not getting on the place after i say it is like i'm reinforcing like hey you can't run away you got to get on the cot

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bo

Bo's session is the duration marker used rather than explained to a client - one handler, one dog, narrating to camera. He marks the heel with good, defines it on the spot as meaning he is in the right place and may not leave it, and in the same breath calls the small collar taps he is using negative reinforcement. It is the cleanest single sentence anywhere on what good means, and it sits immediately next to the loosest use of the technical vocabulary in the cluster, which is a fair summary of the corpus as a whole: the handling is precise and the terminology is not.

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And so I'm just giving little tiny taps there for the negative reinforcement. This is a pet dog. It does not have to be perfect. but it does need to be really good

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Finn

Finn's lesson supplies the sorting rule the rest of the cluster assumes: every word you say to a dog falls into one of two boxes. A command produces a position or an action; a marker says something about what just happened. The trainer flags it as one of the most important parts and repeats it deliberately, and the same session carries the principle that decides what any of it is worth - whether a thing is reinforcement or punishment is decided by the dog rather than by the act. His worked example is a nervous golden retriever who ran from him on first meeting, stopped for a brushed chin, and asked for it again.

so that's like one of the most important parts i'm gonna go over it again okay so markers are how we communicate with the dog so we have like commands and then we have markers and so like a word that you're saying to a dog goes in one of those two categories

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somebody was like is petting a dog a punishment or a reinforcement and the answer is like depends on the dog neither it just depends it could either be like a really good reinforcement like right now i'm training a golden retriever who's nervous the first time i met him he ran away and as he was running i like brushed his chin and he like ran and he stopped and he was like he was like do that again

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Source excerpts

that's something you should like drill into your head. You don't like something she's doing, say, "Eh, get her stop." Right? If you like something she's eh, come figure out. If you like something she's doing, good. Good job. And then like if she's going to command her, okay, to release her, right?

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So all good is is what's called a duration marker. So good and said like good, not good job, right? Because then they're like and they're going to get up, right? Um but just straight like good, right? What that means is um you're you did it. You did good. You did the right thing. However, you still need to continue to do the thing.

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Um you're not free yet. That's That's only okay, right?

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and again if you say ant verse e-collar and then nope verse e-collar it looks exactly the same except minus like one word to the outside but to her brain she's taking the info as two very different things

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It's either a, Oh, I need to go back into this. Like I messed up. Let me go back into this behavior or it means, Oh, that's a bad behavior. I can't do it ever again.

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so in that case i use the note marker because if she bit a dog and then i went ash to be like wait look again right i can do it a little bit worse than that yeah whereas if it's a nope it's like you can't do this like this is a it's not allowed i don't want to see it again

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that's why i went into all that like that sciencey stuff it looks exactly the same the only difference is the word swapped it looks like the same like chain of events to me or you but to her brain it's either a oh i did bad or i did like oh i should be doing this

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like for like the jumping on the counter that's a note because that's a behavior that you don't want to be like no you broke it like go back on the counter that's a don't get on the counter again bad behavior nope versus not her not getting on the place after i say it is like i'm reinforcing like hey you can't run away you got to get on the cot

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the e-collar always comes after a word. So, how does the dog know if it's a reinforcement or a punishment if you don't specify? So, that is why we have two words. We have like our like our ain't kind of like somebody would do with their kid, right? And then we have like a nope.

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if i put her into a sit and she gets up well i need to reinforce that sit so i'm going to go in and then hit the e-collar and then she'll go back into position versus let's say she's jumping on somebody right and you don't want her to jump on somebody that's a nope because that's a behavior that we don't want

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right that way you're not just like out here being like and nope nope nope and it sounds like a game or something

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And so it's kind of like a dual reinforcement. Um, and so you saw there I I did the ant with the e-collar and the ant was kind of like a, "Hey, you got out of this position. I'm trying to reinforce you. Go back into a sit." Whereas like if she sat down and I was like, "Nope." She'd be like, "Oh, I can't ever sit down again."

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I've began utilizing it more so as of recently where I have the black one will be the and then the red's the nope.

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And so, that's how they when I say no, it goes up in value because it's a like a legitimate punishment where it's like, "Don't do that again." The black one is a very like low just like stim just kind of stim, right? That way it's just enough for him to be like, "Eh."

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so just use this button right here just that black one right there we don't use the this side because that's just a vibrate and if you just do a vibrate the dog learns that the ant means nothing there's no point there's no negative averse of anything

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so that's like one of the most important parts i'm gonna go over it again okay so markers are how we communicate with the dog so we have like commands and then we have markers and so like a word that you're saying to a dog goes in one of those two categories

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so talking about the markers we can tell the dog if it's a reinforcer or a punishment by a marker

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How the trainers explain it

The stated mechanism is that the marker carries the information and the correction does not. Because the collar tap is the same sensation whichever word precedes it, the word is the only variable the dog can use to tell what is being asked - "it looks exactly the same the only difference is the word swapped" (9M2Q54KbWTU, 16:43), and "to her brain she's taking the info as two very different things" (60YpxVWYv20, 10:23). Two words exist because the dog otherwise cannot tell reinforcement from punishment: "how does the dog know if it's a reinforcement or a punishment if you don't specify? So, that is why we have two words" (nAUPrDuZN6I, 21:23). The soft marker points at a command that was given and left - go back into the sit; the hard one points at a behaviour and forbids it, and the trainers voice both from the dog's side, "Oh, I need to go back into this" against "I can't do it ever again" (60YpxVWYv20, 10:37). Two supporting mechanisms follow from that. First, the marker must stay backed: a marker followed by something the dog cannot feel teaches the marker to mean nothing (5K5ivI_ocfg, 12:42) - which is why the vibrate is refused, and it is the same argument as `why-has-no-stopped-working` from the other direction. Second, the size of the consequence is supposed to match the word, which is why one trainer puts the soft marker on the low button and nope on the raised one (l3IAjG4Zk18, 04:57). Underneath all of it sits the frame the owners are taught explicitly - the four quadrants, reduced on purpose to two axes, positive is add, negative is take away, reinforcement encourages, punishment discourages - plus the rule that decides which is which in practice: the dog does, not the handler. "A dog decides which one is which" (A5tEoaHw99Y, 11:55), and an e-collar can read as encouragement to one dog while petting reads as punishment to another (12:32). What is inferred and not stated: no session in this corpus tests whether a dog actually discriminates the two markers - no handler runs eh and nope on the same behaviour to see the dog respond differently. The claim is asserted consistently by at least four handlers across seven dogs and shown by none of them.

Differences to review

How many correction words an owner is actually given, and whether the second one is optional.

First perspective

Two, always, as a matched pair. The distinction is the point of the system and it is taught to every family as a pair.

the e-collar always comes after a word. So, how does the dog know if it's a reinforcement or a punishment if you don't specify? So, that is why we have two words. We have like our like our ain't kind of like somebody would do with their kid, right? And then we have like a nope.

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so the way that we have that, though, is a word that communicates the idea to the dog, so we have like a kind of like when like little kids right like touching the stuff you're like don't do that and for her that's her reinforcement and the punishment is like allowed like nope and you'll always use one of those words and then the e-collar

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Second perspective

Effectively one, for this dog. The punishment marker is scoped to the individual: a dog who does not offer behaviours that warrant it barely needs it, and using it on something small is too much.

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How to read this comparison

Both are taught as the standard, neither handler addresses the other, and the difference tracks the dog - a nervous husky against a puppy with no impulse control and a Rottweiler with a bite history. Whether scoping the vocabulary to the dog is house policy or one trainer's judgement is not stated anywhere.

What the tug example actually illustrates - a teaching error that survives across trainers and families.

First perspective

Taking the toy away when the dog breaks the command is taught, in two different families' lessons weeks apart, as negative reinforcement.

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So, if I pull if I pull the tug out, and he's like, "Yeah, let's do this." Right? Okay, that's positive reinforcement or the start of it, shall I say. All right, I put him in a sit and he sits and then he gets up and I go and he's like, "Oh no, the toy's gone forever." And he's like, "It's gone. I'm never going to play tug ever again." That's ne- that's negative reinforcement because I took it away.

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Second perspective

By the definitions the same trainers give in the same breath - negative is to take away, reinforcement encourages, punishment discourages - removing something the dog wants in order to stop him breaking the position is negative punishment, not negative reinforcement. The correct worked example of negative reinforcement is in the same lesson: leash pressure held until she gives the sit, then released.

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How to read this comparison

This is laid out and not resolved, because resolving it is the owner's call rather than this reader's. Two things are worth separating. Nothing an owner is told to do is wrong - the handling in both lessons is consistent and correct, and the families are not being taught to do anything harmful. What is wrong is the label, and it is wrong the same way twice, in the same worked example, in lessons given to two different households by what appear to be two different handlers. That pattern - one anecdote, one error, reproduced - reads as a shared internal teaching script rather than as a slip of the tongue. The same looseness turns up all over the corpus in the phrase itself: collar taps in a heel are called negative reinforcement (yDYKPp4iVVo, 19:43), and so is a social-pressure correction with no tool at all in the same session.

Whether the soft marker is a warning or an instruction.

First perspective

An instruction with a specific content: you left the position, go back into it. That is what makes it different from nope rather than merely softer than it.

if i put her into a sit and she gets up well i need to reinforce that sit so i'm going to go in and then hit the e-collar and then she'll go back into position versus let's say she's jumping on somebody right and you don't want her to jump on somebody that's a nope because that's a behavior that we don't want

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And so it's kind of like a dual reinforcement. Um, and so you saw there I I did the ant with the e-collar and the ant was kind of like a, "Hey, you got out of this position. I'm trying to reinforce you. Go back into a sit." Whereas like if she sat down and I was like, "Nope." She'd be like, "Oh, I can't ever sit down again."

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Second perspective

A warning - the owner's own reading, offered back to the trainer in her first lesson and not corrected.

I can't do it ever again. Okay. Right. Yeah. It's kind of like a warning. Like you're pushing it.

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How to read this comparison

The owner's summary and the trainers' definition are not the same thing, and nobody on camera notices. A warning implies the next step is worse; the trainers' version implies the next step is elsewhere. It matters because an owner who hears warning will escalate the same word rather than switch words, which is exactly the undifferentiated stream the system exists to prevent.

Questions and answers

How many words do I actually have to learn?

Three to run the dog, and a fourth for behaviours you want gone. Eh the moment you dislike what he is doing. Good while he is doing what you asked and must keep doing it. Okay to release him. Then nope, for the things you never want to see again - jumping, counters, anything with a bite in it. One trainer gives the first three as a single list and tells the owner to drill them into her head, and the others build everything else on top of the same set. If you only remember one distinction, remember that good and okay are not the same word: good means carry on, okay means you are finished.

that's something you should like drill into your head. You don't like something she's doing, say, "Eh, get her stop." Right? If you like something she's eh, come figure out. If you like something she's doing, good. Good job. And then like if she's going to command her, okay, to release her, right?

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Why are there two correction words? Isn't one enough?

Because they mean opposite things and the dog has no other way to tell them apart. The collar tap is the same sensation whichever word precedes it, so the word is doing all the work: the soft one means you left a command, go back into it, and nope means that behaviour is not allowed at all. One trainer puts the difference in the dog's own voice - I need to go back into this, against I can't do it ever again. And the choice is a judgement about what happens next rather than about how cross you are. The example the trainers use is a dog who has just bitten another dog: the softer marker there would read to her as try again, harder.

It's either a, Oh, I need to go back into this. Like I messed up. Let me go back into this behavior or it means, Oh, that's a bad behavior. I can't do it ever again.

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so in that case i use the note marker because if she bit a dog and then i went ash to be like wait look again right i can do it a little bit worse than that yeah whereas if it's a nope it's like you can't do this like this is a it's not allowed i don't want to see it again

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What is the difference between 'good' and 'okay'?

Good is a duration marker and okay is a release. Good means you are right and you may not leave yet; okay means the job is over and you are free. This is the distinction owners break most often and it is broken by accident, usually by saying good job - which sounds like an ending, so the dog takes it as one. Say the short version, and say it in a flat voice rather than an excited one. A handler working alone gives the cleanest definition of it in the corpus while marking a heel: he went into the right place, but he is not allowed to come out of it yet.

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Um you're not free yet. That's That's only okay, right?

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Does the exact sound matter? I say uh-uh, not eh.

An owner asks precisely this, and the answer is that the tone matters more than the syllable. The trainer's advice is to stay close to what he uses, and then immediately relaxes it: as long as the tone is fairly similar it is fine. What is not negotiable is consistency and order - the same sound every time, and always before the collar rather than with it or after it. Be aware too that the sound is hard to write down: the transcripts of these very lessons render it as eh, ant, ash, ain't and uh-uh, which is a good sign that you should copy the sound from your trainer rather than from a page.

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Can I use the vibrate instead of the stim? It seems gentler.

The trainers say no, and their reason is not about kindness. A marker works because the dog has learned that something follows it. Pair the word with a vibration the dog can feel but does not mind and you have taught him that the word predicts nothing - so you lose the word, and with it the ability to correct him at a distance without the collar at all. The instruction given to one family is exactly one button: the low one, every time. The red button, which raises the level sharply, is described as being for dogs that bite people.

so just use this button right here just that black one right there we don't use the this side because that's just a vibrate and if you just do a vibrate the dog learns that the ant means nothing there's no point there's no negative averse of anything

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and the red button will crank it up like twice as high that's for like dogs that want to like bite people and stuff okay deuce is not like that so the only one you'll ever need to use is just that black

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Is the marker a warning?

An owner offers that word back to a trainer mid-lesson and it is not corrected, so it is worth being careful with. In the trainers' own definitions the soft marker is not a warning of something worse - it is an instruction pointing somewhere else: you have left a command, go back into it. If you treat it as a warning you will say it louder and then louder again, which is the undifferentiated stream the two-word system exists to prevent. The escalation the trainers actually describe is a change of word, not a change of volume.

I can't do it ever again. Okay. Right. Yeah. It's kind of like a warning. Like you're pushing it.

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if i put her into a sit and she gets up well i need to reinforce that sit so i'm going to go in and then hit the e-collar and then she'll go back into position versus let's say she's jumping on somebody right and you don't want her to jump on somebody that's a nope because that's a behavior that we don't want

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Teaching outline
objective

The handler can name the four words and say what each one does, chooses between the two correction markers by what the dog should do next rather than by how annoyed he is, and never lets a marker go unbacked.

demonstration

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t

10:23

what

The two markers explained as identical from outside and opposite to the dog, with the bite case as the worked example of choosing wrongly.

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21:04

what

The duration marker defined, and the 'good job' failure named.

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16:43

what

An owner's objection - the collar looks the same either way - answered with the counter and the cot.

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12:42

what

The hardware instruction: one button, never the vibrate, and why.

drill

Before the session, write down two lists for this dog: commands he has been given that he sometimes leaves, and behaviours you want gone entirely. The first list is the soft marker's territory, the second is nope's. Then run it. Put him in a position and wait for him to break it; mark with the soft word, back it, and watch him return to the position rather than to you. Then set up a behaviour off the second list - a jump you can invite, a counter you can bait - and mark it with nope. Do not escalate the volume on either; sharpen the tone instead. In between, mark the held position with good, said short and flat, and then release with okay so that the dog experiences all three inside one minute. Check yourself on order every time: the word comes first, the collar follows it, never together and never before. (Stormie 60YpxVWYv20 and A5tEoaHw99Y; Luna trspGmYuPAw; Roxy b1KKdwPV3k4; Dutchess 9M2Q54KbWTU.)

common mistakes

Saying 'good job' where the system means 'good'.

Using nope for everything until it sounds like a game (A5tEoaHw99Y 13:12).

Escalating volume rather than switching words.

Marking after the collar rather than before it (trspGmYuPAw 37:19).

Pairing a marker with the vibrate, which empties the marker (5K5ivI_ocfg 12:42).

Reaching for the punishment marker on something trivial, like sniffing a table (_TVllc3GPIQ 33:45).

check question

Your dog is in a down. A visitor arrives, he breaks the down and jumps on them. Which marker, and why? (Two errors, and the trainers would take the behaviour, not the broken command: jumping is a behaviour you never want, so nope. The soft marker would tell him to go back into the down, which is not what you need him to learn about jumping on people - A5tEoaHw99Y 13:29.)

Common mistakes

mistake

Saying 'good job' where the trainers say 'good'. Good job sounds like the end of the exercise, so the dog gets up - and the owner reads it as a dog who will not hold a command.

So all good is is what's called a duration marker. So good and said like good, not good job, right? Because then they're like and they're going to get up, right? Um but just straight like good, right? What that means is um you're you did it. You did good. You did the right thing. However, you still need to continue to do the thing.

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mistake

Using one correction word for everything, so it turns into noise the dog stops hearing.

right that way you're not just like out here being like and nope nope nope and it sounds like a game or something

Watch at 13:12 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
mistake

Reaching for the hard marker on something small. A nope for sniffing a table is named on camera as too much; a redirect does the job.

Source withheld by the current visibility or collection review.

mistake

Using the vibrate button because it feels kinder. A marker followed by something the dog cannot feel teaches the marker to mean nothing, which costs you the word itself.

so just use this button right here just that black one right there we don't use the this side because that's just a vibrate and if you just do a vibrate the dog learns that the ant means nothing there's no point there's no negative averse of anything

Watch at 12:42 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
mistake

Getting louder instead of sharper. The marker is a change of tone, not of volume, and the coaching an owner gets is to add power without shouting.

Source withheld by the current visibility or collection review.

mistake

Putting the collar before the word, which attaches the sensation to whatever else is in the room instead of to the marker.

Quotation held: its full wording does not match the current transcript. Preserved-track provenance is recorded in the private audit.

What to notice

signal

You praise him for holding a position and he immediately gets up, and you cannot work out whether he is disobedient or you released him.

Um you're not free yet. That's That's only okay, right?

Watch at 21:34 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
signal

You hear yourself using the same correction sound for everything from a broken sit to jumping on a visitor - and he has stopped responding to it.

right that way you're not just like out here being like and nope nope nope and it sounds like a game or something

Watch at 13:12 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
signal

You do not know which of his behaviours are 'never do that again' and which are 'you left a command' - so you correct both the same way.

like for like the jumping on the counter that's a note because that's a behavior that you don't want to be like no you broke it like go back on the counter that's a don't get on the counter again bad behavior nope versus not her not getting on the place after i say it is like i'm reinforcing like hey you can't run away you got to get on the cot

Watch at 17:05 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
signal

The correction looks the same to you in two opposite situations and you have quietly concluded that the collar can only really be punishment.

that's why i went into all that like that sciencey stuff it looks exactly the same the only difference is the word swapped it looks like the same like chain of events to me or you but to her brain it's either a oh i did bad or i did like oh i should be doing this

Watch at 16:43 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Trainer notes

The owner-facing set is three words - eh, good, okay - and the handler set adds nope. Good is a duration marker and must be said short and flat; 'good job' functions as a release and will cost you the position (b1KKdwPV3k4 21:04). Selection rule for the two corrections: the soft marker points at a command the dog has left and means return to it; nope points at a behaviour and forbids it (A5tEoaHw99Y 13:29; ldFe0hOs5NQ 18:32). Choose by what the dog should do next, not by severity - the soft marker after a bite reads as an invitation to escalate (60YpxVWYv20 11:06). Order is invariant: word, then collar, never simultaneously, or the sensation attaches to whatever else is present (trspGmYuPAw 37:19; 5K5ivI_ocfg 13:07). Sizing: one handler maps the soft marker to the black button at a low stim and nope to the red, which raises the value, on the ground that nope is a real punishment (l3IAjG4Zk18 04:57) - he describes this as recent practice, so confirm before teaching it. Never pair a marker with the vibrate; an unbacked marker is a marker being unlearned (5K5ivI_ocfg 12:42), and the owner-facing instruction on that transmitter is the black button only, with red reserved for dogs that bite people. Delivery: sharper, not louder (_TVllc3GPIQ 22:57). Scope the punishment marker to the dog - Luna's family is told they will barely need it, and a nope for a table sniff is named as too much, with a redirect substituted (trspGmYuPAw 37:51; _TVllc3GPIQ 33:45). The frame behind all of it is the four quadrants, deliberately reduced to two axes for owners, and every handler who teaches it says out loud that he is simplifying it on purpose (vRPhOZq5WJ4 09:49; 60YpxVWYv20 08:33; nAUPrDuZN6I 17:23). Two things in that block are worth internal attention. First, the dog decides what is reinforcing - an e-collar can be encouragement to a cracked-out Belgian and petting can be punishment to a nervous dog (A5tEoaHw99Y 12:32; nAUPrDuZN6I 20:37), which is the rule that makes the quadrant labels useful at all. Second, the tug example is taught backwards in at least two lessons: removing the toy to stop a break is negative punishment, not negative reinforcement (vRPhOZq5WJ4 15:39; nAUPrDuZN6I 20:07). The correct illustration is in the same lesson - pressure held until she offers the sit, then released (vRPhOZq5WJ4 10:44). Fix the script or drop the quadrants; do not leave staff repeating it to clients who will look it up.

By trainer
trainer

Connor

how they teach it

The most frequent teacher of this block in the corpus - he delivers it to four different households across at least five recordings. His version is systematic and hardware-aware: the two words introduced as the answer to how the dog knows which is coming, then mapped onto the transmitter's buttons, then narrowed at the next lesson to a single instruction the family can actually follow. He is the one who refuses the vibrate on principle, who scopes the punishment marker to the individual dog, and who coaches delivery - sharper, not louder. He also carries the tug mislabel.

the e-collar always comes after a word. So, how does the dog know if it's a reinforcement or a punishment if you don't specify? So, that is why we have two words. We have like our like our ain't kind of like somebody would do with their kid, right? And then we have like a nope.

Watch at 21:23 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending

and the red button will crank it up like twice as high that's for like dogs that want to like bite people and stuff okay deuce is not like that so the only one you'll ever need to use is just that black

Watch at 12:54 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending

if i put her into a sit and she gets up well i need to reinforce that sit so i'm going to go in and then hit the e-collar and then she'll go back into position versus let's say she's jumping on somebody right and you don't want her to jump on somebody that's a nope because that's a behavior that we don't want

Watch at 13:29 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending

And so it's kind of like a dual reinforcement. Um, and so you saw there I I did the ant with the e-collar and the ant was kind of like a, "Hey, you got out of this position. I'm trying to reinforce you. Go back into a sit." Whereas like if she sat down and I was like, "Nope." She'd be like, "Oh, I can't ever sit down again."

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trainer

Kelton

how they teach it

Teaches the owner-facing list rather than the theory - the three words as a set to drill into your head, with good given its own definition as a duration marker and the 'good job' failure named explicitly. He is the only handler in this set who hands the family the whole vocabulary as a list and then says that nothing else is required. The attribution is the Tier 1 note's reading, from a self-introduction transcribed as 'Calton' in the companion lesson, not a clean naming.

that's something you should like drill into your head. You don't like something she's doing, say, "Eh, get her stop." Right? If you like something she's eh, come figure out. If you like something she's doing, good. Good job. And then like if she's going to command her, okay, to release her, right?

Watch at 08:47 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending

So all good is is what's called a duration marker. So good and said like good, not good job, right? Because then they're like and they're going to get up, right? Um but just straight like good, right? What that means is um you're you did it. You did good. You did the right thing. However, you still need to continue to do the thing.

Watch at 21:04 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Equipment context
tool

E-collar transmitter with two buttons (black and red) and a vibrate

how used

The only place in the corpus where marker words are tied to specific hardware. Black carries the soft marker at a low stim; red carries nope and raises the value by a configurable amount, because nope is a real punishment. Owners are then given one button - black - with red described as for dogs that bite people, and the vibrate refused outright because a marker backed by something the dog cannot feel teaches the marker to mean nothing.

I've began utilizing it more so as of recently where I have the black one will be the and then the red's the nope.

Watch at 04:51 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending

so just use this button right here just that black one right there we don't use the this side because that's just a vibrate and if you just do a vibrate the dog learns that the ant means nothing there's no point there's no negative averse of anything

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tool

A tug

how used

The standard worked example in the owner lessons rather than a tool used on these dogs: produced, withheld on a broken command, and brought back on compliance, to show reinforcement and punishment in something the family can see. It is also where the teaching script goes wrong - see the conflicts.

Quotation held: its full wording does not match the current transcript. Preserved-track provenance is recorded in the private audit.

tool

The leash, held rather than jerked

how used

The corpus's correct demonstration of negative reinforcement, and the one handlers reach for when they want the concept shown rather than named: hold the dog where he cannot go anywhere, wait for the position, release the pressure the moment he offers it.

Quotation held: its full wording does not match the current transcript. Preserved-track provenance is recorded in the private audit.

Settings

Deuce

Source at 21:23 ↗

place

the client's house, indoors, with the dog demonstrated on between explanations

t

21:23

Deuce

Source at 12:42 ↗

place

outdoors with both owners present and handling, the transmitter passed over

t

12:42

Stormie

Source at 10:23 ↗

place

the training facility, with a co-worker present and the kennel room audible

t

10:23

Stormie

Source at 13:29 ↗

place

the client's home, mid-program, with both owners taking the leash in turn

t

13:29

Dutchess

Source at 16:43 ↗

place

the owners' home, at the handover, with the transfer paperwork at the end of the session

t

16:43

Roxy

Source at 21:04 ↗

place

the owners' home, with two dogs from the household worked together

t

21:04

Luna

Source at 18:32 ↗

place

a park, on leash throughout, during the family's first in-program lesson

t

18:32

Owner accounts

Quotation held: its full wording does not match the current transcript. Preserved-track provenance is recorded in the private audit.

I can't do it ever again. Okay. Right. Yeah. It's kind of like a warning. Like you're pushing it.

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Candidate clips

that's why i went into all that like that sciencey stuff it looks exactly the same the only difference is the word swapped it looks like the same like chain of events to me or you but to her brain it's either a oh i did bad or i did like oh i should be doing this

Watch at 16:43 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending

Quotation held: text matches, but timestamp or full-span transcript confidence still needs review.

So all good is is what's called a duration marker. So good and said like good, not good job, right? Because then they're like and they're going to get up, right? Um but just straight like good, right? What that means is um you're you did it. You did good. You did the right thing. However, you still need to continue to do the thing.

Watch at 21:04 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending

so just use this button right here just that black one right there we don't use the this side because that's just a vibrate and if you just do a vibrate the dog learns that the ant means nothing there's no point there's no negative averse of anything

Watch at 12:42 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending

the e-collar always comes after a word. So, how does the dog know if it's a reinforcement or a punishment if you don't specify? So, that is why we have two words. We have like our like our ain't kind of like somebody would do with their kid, right? And then we have like a nope.

Watch at 21:23 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending

Quotation held: its full wording does not match the current transcript. Preserved-track provenance is recorded in the private audit.

Source moments

Source at 08:47 ↗

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08:47

chapter label

The three words you need

Source at 21:04 ↗

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21:04

chapter label

Good, not good job

Source at 19:35 ↗

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19:35

chapter label

What a duration marker is

Source at 08:33 ↗

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08:33

chapter label

The four quadrants, made simple

Source at 10:23 ↗

t

10:23

chapter label

Same tap, two meanings

Source at 11:06 ↗

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11:06

chapter label

Why a bite gets nope

Source at 16:43 ↗

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16:43

chapter label

Only the word is different

Source at 17:05 ↗

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17:05

chapter label

The counter and the cot

Source at 21:23 ↗

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21:23

chapter label

Why there are two words

Source at 20:07 ↗

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20:07

chapter label

The tug, and a label to check

Source at 04:51 ↗

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04:51

chapter label

Black button, red button

Source at 12:42 ↗

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12:42

chapter label

Never use the vibrate

Source at 11:55 ↗

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11:55

chapter label

The dog decides which is which

Source at 13:12 ↗

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13:12

chapter label

Nope, nope, nope is noise

Source at 18:32 ↗

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18:32

chapter label

Go back into it, or never again

Source at 37:19 ↗

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37:19

chapter label

The word comes first

Source reference held under the current eligibility review.

Source reference held under the current eligibility review.

Source at 22:15 ↗

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22:15

chapter label

Commands and markers

Source at 09:49 ↗

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09:49

chapter label

If you take one thing away

Case story beats

Dutchess

beat

An owner at her own handover says the quiet objection out loud - it looks like the same thing to me - and the trainer, instead of asserting authority, goes back to the theory he taught her weeks earlier and shows her where the difference lives. It is the moment the whole vocabulary earns its keep: not because the dog understood it, but because the person did.

that's why i went into all that like that sciencey stuff it looks exactly the same the only difference is the word swapped it looks like the same like chain of events to me or you but to her brain it's either a oh i did bad or i did like oh i should be doing this

Watch at 16:43 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending

like for like the jumping on the counter that's a note because that's a behavior that you don't want to be like no you broke it like go back on the counter that's a don't get on the counter again bad behavior nope versus not her not getting on the place after i say it is like i'm reinforcing like hey you can't run away you got to get on the cot

Watch at 17:05 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending

Stormie

beat

Teaching a puppy's owner why the two markers matter, the trainer reaches for the case he has just finished - a sweet Rottweiler who put two of her own household's dogs in the emergency vet - and explains what would have happened if he had chosen the gentle word. The dog he is describing is Dutchess, whose own file is three weeks old in this corpus.

I just trained a Rottweiler who she was really, really sweet. But one of her main issues was that she sent two of the dogs that she lives with to the ER.

Watch at 10:54 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending

so in that case i use the note marker because if she bit a dog and then i went ash to be like wait look again right i can do it a little bit worse than that yeah whereas if it's a nope it's like you can't do this like this is a it's not allowed i don't want to see it again

Watch at 11:06 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending

Deuce

beat

A trainer explaining the correction words to a family has to say them quietly, because the dog they belong to is sitting in front of him and will answer to either one. It is the smallest possible demonstration that the words are already real to the dog, made by accident while he is still explaining that they exist.

I'm I'm trying to do it quietly cuz I don't want to say it and then he's like, "I didn't do anything."

Watch at 21:36 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending

the e-collar always comes after a word. So, how does the dog know if it's a reinforcement or a punishment if you don't specify? So, that is why we have two words. We have like our like our ain't kind of like somebody would do with their kid, right? And then we have like a nope.

Watch at 21:23 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending

Questions for intake

What noise do you already make when you disapprove of something the dog does? Every family has one, and it will come out under pressure whatever we teach, so we would rather build on it than fight it.

What do you say when you are pleased with him, and do you say it while he is working or when you are finished? This is the single distinction owners break most often, and it is cheaper to catch at intake than at the handover.

List the behaviours you never want to see again - jumping, counters, the front door, anything with teeth in it. That list is the punishment marker's whole territory, and it should come from you rather than from us.

Which of his problems are 'he doesn't hold what I asked' and which are 'he does something I never asked for'? The two get different words, and families usually have not separated them.

Does anyone in the house shout at him now? The marker is a change of tone, not of volume, and a household already using volume has a habit to unlearn first.

If you already own an e-collar, which buttons have you used and at what levels? One of our instructions is that the vibrate is never used as a marker, and we need to know whether it has been.

Still to establish

The tug example is taught wrong in at least two families' lessons, weeks apart, by what appear to be two different handlers - taking the toy away to stop a dog breaking a position is negative punishment, and both lessons call it negative reinforcement. Because it is the same anecdote with the same error it looks like a shared internal script rather than a slip. Kelton should decide whether to correct the script, drop the quadrant block from owner lessons, or keep it and accept that the label is loose. The handling taught to the families is not affected.

The soft marker has no agreed spelling and possibly no agreed sound. Across these thirteen sessions the transcripts render it as eh, ant, ash, ain't, uh-uh and at least once as a bare vowel, and nope appears as note and no. Before any of this reaches a page or a handbook somebody has to decide what the word is in writing.

Is 'good' in the owner-facing set, or is it the handlers' word? Roxy's family is given all three; Luna's, Stormie's and Deuce's families are drilled on the corrections and the release, and the duration marker is mostly used rather than explained. If good is standard curriculum it is being dropped from most handovers.

The black-button/red-button mapping is described by the trainer who uses it as something he started doing recently. Is it now house standard, one handler's practice, or already superseded? It is the only place in the corpus where marker words are tied to specific hardware.

King's first in-program lesson (cKHKUAETVwU) contains the fullest statement of the operant frame anywhere in the corpus - the seat-belt chime as negative reinforcement, and the instruction to back every marker with a tap for the first month at home. It was not in this concept's dossier and King's arc was not read for this page. The map should decide whether King merges here or under `command-marker-collar`.

Nobody demonstrates the discrimination. It would take one minute of film - the same dog, the same behaviour, the two markers, the two different responses - and it would settle the central claim of this page. It has never been shot.

Source limitations

The marker words themselves are the least reliable text in this corpus, which is an awkward fact for a page about vocabulary. Whisper renders the soft marker as 'ant', 'ash', 'ain't', 'eh' and 'uh-uh', and 'nope' as 'note' and 'no'. Every quote here is reproduced exactly as the track has it, so the same word appears under several spellings on this page.

Bo's session is published twice. a6yOHJb7_FU ('Training Session - Loose-Leash, Sit, Place, Down, Heel Entry, Heel, Come, etc. w/Bo') and yDYKPp4iVVo ('Looking Dapper with Bo!') are the same recording with the same opening line and the same 19:35 passage. It is cited here once, as yDYKPp4iVVo, and counted once.

Luna's trspGmYuPAw runs on the en-US caption track, which came from an earlier Whisper pipeline rather than from a human; its capitalisation is erratic and its line breaks fall mid-sentence. Quotes keep the track's mid-sentence capitals.

Deuce's nAUPrDuZN6I and l3IAjG4Zk18 are two halves of one visit, not two sessions; 5K5ivI_ocfg and YVW2tMjuBmE likewise. They are counted here as the recordings cited, not as separate lessons.

Speaker identity: Connor is named in five of these files, by himself, usually inside a joke. Every other handler on this page is unnamed. Where a 'who' gives exclusions - not Christian, not Kelton - those come from the Tier 1 notes, which derived them from third-person references in the same transcript.

Seven of the thirteen cited sessions carry no publication date, so the range below covers six.

Connected library collections

These links follow eligible video assignments in the reviewed library. A source can feature more than one animal; the older research-folder name is not used to merge identities.

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