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More repetitions can reduce the quality of learning; watch the dog and change or end an unproductive sequence.
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Answer
The trainers repeatedly describe a point at which more commands are counterproductive. Lola’s lesson connects a dense run of commands with an attempt to leave. Dutchess’s trainer chooses to walk around instead of pushing the same unsuccessful command over and over. Stormie’s lesson includes a trainer’s retrospective account of over-drilling another dog early in his career. These are concrete reasons to inspect frequency, not simply total minutes.
Resetting has several forms. It may mean walking, returning to interaction, altering a failed setup, or ending a block that has already answered its question. Dolce’s staged exercise is reset when the original setup no longer works; continuing would rehearse the wrong event. Bo’s record adds another caution: one odd repetition is interpreted as a fluke, with no confident cause assigned. A one-off failure should not automatically become a lengthy attempt to re-teach an otherwise established response.
This does not prescribe one rep count for all dogs or all tasks. Duration-place work, for example, is not the same as a rapid succession of commands. The relevant question is whether the present exercise still has a useful objective and whether the dog is available for it. The trainer also belongs in that assessment: Dutchess’s handler admits that a busy day can make him robotic and inclined to drill. The owner takeaway is a purposeful, responsive practice session, not an arbitrary timer or a rule that all repetition is harmful.
Owner takeaway
Practice a specific skill for a specific reason, with breaks and a stopping point agreed with the trainer. When the dog’s engagement drops or an exercise becomes confused, inspect the setup instead of adding repetitions automatically.
Across the cases
Lola
The trainer describes overloading Lola with commands and explicitly wants to avoid making outings miserable. The account links density, mood and later avoidance.
with her um drilling too many commands at once will make her want to be like frick this i'm out right i that that happened the other day where like you know like with with the the tree thing i was telling you about it was like commands and all of a sudden she was like yeah i'm done and she's like i'm on a long line i could just run right now
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try to get a try to get progress in without you know scarring the dogs it's always a good idea but just you know just i don't want her to learn that coming out here training is a miserable experience and i'm gonna drag you along in the heat right uh we don't want that
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I'll see what working on a couple of positions I want introduce too many things at once and overwhelm her or ruin the mood you know because I want her to have a good time out here
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Stormie
The teaching includes a first-person account of over-drilling a different dog, plus an acknowledgment of a similar mistake in current handling. The older dog’s story is not Stormie’s outcome.
there was a lab I was working with like when I was first learning how to train dogs and he did really good and then I kept drilling commands all of a sudden he was like running away from me and like not listening and his whole body language changed and I found out that yeah it was like wasn't necessarily the command that was bad it was the frequency of it that was encouraging him to like repress himself
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so actually I did a mistake that every now and then I make is where
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Dutchess
A failed command is paused for a walk. Another lesson warns about excessive repetitions, and the handler recognizes his own tendency to drill when working robotically.
command i'm not gonna like push it over and over we're kind of gonna like walk around for a minute
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They'll kind of give you this look of, like, just, like, very, like, nothing's going on up there currently.
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But you do too many reps and you'll shut a dog down.
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I start to just want to drill. But the thing with her is if you don't love on her she her performance will go down.
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Dolce
A staged setup is reset after the dog scents the decoy. The reset corrects the arrangement rather than demanding more of the same spoiled repetition.
watch back up back up she smells you okay reset it start from further away
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bo
The trainer calls an unexpected event a fluke and acknowledges that trained dogs can have an odd moment. The record does not establish a cause or justify dismissing a recurring problem.
That was random. He did not seem super happy there to
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Sometimes they can just feel a little strange.
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So, that was just a fluke, it's a fluke, it's a fluke.
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These things happen sometimes even with with dogs that are doing a lot of the training.
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Source excerpts
with her um drilling too many commands at once will make her want to be like frick this i'm out right i that that happened the other day where like you know like with with the the tree thing i was telling you about it was like commands and all of a sudden she was like yeah i'm done and she's like i'm on a long line i could just run right now
Watch at 11:22 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
try to get a try to get progress in without you know scarring the dogs it's always a good idea but just you know just i don't want her to learn that coming out here training is a miserable experience and i'm gonna drag you along in the heat right uh we don't want that
Watch at 08:48 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
I'll see what working on a couple of positions I want introduce too many things at once and overwhelm her or ruin the mood you know because I want her to have a good time out here
Watch at 01:07 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
there was a lab I was working with like when I was first learning how to train dogs and he did really good and then I kept drilling commands all of a sudden he was like running away from me and like not listening and his whole body language changed and I found out that yeah it was like wasn't necessarily the command that was bad it was the frequency of it that was encouraging him to like repress himself
Watch at 47:15 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
so actually I did a mistake that every now and then I make is where
Watch at 10:25 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
command i'm not gonna like push it over and over we're kind of gonna like walk around for a minute
Watch at 01:14 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
They'll kind of give you this look of, like, just, like, very, like, nothing's going on up there currently.
Watch at 02:36 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
But you do too many reps and you'll shut a dog down.
Watch at 07:07 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
I start to just want to drill. But the thing with her is if you don't love on her she her performance will go down.
Watch at 16:19 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
watch back up back up she smells you okay reset it start from further away
Watch at 01:27 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
That was random. He did not seem super happy there to
Watch at 02:30 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Sometimes they can just feel a little strange.
Watch at 02:50 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
So, that was just a fluke, it's a fluke, it's a fluke.
Watch at 03:09 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
These things happen sometimes even with with dogs that are doing a lot of the training.
Watch at 02:42 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
How the trainers explain it
The trainers link dense repetition with fatigue, suppression, avoidance or a negative association with the outing. The inference is that spacing and a changed setup can preserve useful engagement. The exact dose differs; the corpus is not an experiment establishing a universal threshold.
with her um drilling too many commands at once will make her want to be like frick this i'm out right i that that happened the other day where like you know like with with the the tree thing i was telling you about it was like commands and all of a sudden she was like yeah i'm done and she's like i'm on a long line i could just run right now
Watch at 11:22 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
try to get a try to get progress in without you know scarring the dogs it's always a good idea but just you know just i don't want her to learn that coming out here training is a miserable experience and i'm gonna drag you along in the heat right uh we don't want that
Watch at 08:48 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
command i'm not gonna like push it over and over we're kind of gonna like walk around for a minute
Watch at 01:14 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
But you do too many reps and you'll shut a dog down.
Watch at 07:07 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
I start to just want to drill. But the thing with her is if you don't love on her she her performance will go down.
Watch at 16:19 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
This is a synthesis of the cited training record, not a controlled comparison or a measurement of the dog’s internal state.
Questions and answers
How many repetitions is too many?
No fixed count is supported. Dutchess’s trainer warns about excess and changes the exercise in response to the dog; Lola’s account shows why the form and density of work matter.
with her um drilling too many commands at once will make her want to be like frick this i'm out right i that that happened the other day where like you know like with with the the tree thing i was telling you about it was like commands and all of a sudden she was like yeah i'm done and she's like i'm on a long line i could just run right now
Watch at 11:22 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
command i'm not gonna like push it over and over we're kind of gonna like walk around for a minute
Watch at 01:14 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
But you do too many reps and you'll shut a dog down.
Watch at 07:07 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Does one failure mean the command needs retraining?
Bo’s trainer does not treat the isolated event that way. Repeated failures, altered context and changing state still deserve investigation; the point is not to assume a training hole from one repetition.
So, that was just a fluke, it's a fluke, it's a fluke.
Watch at 03:09 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
These things happen sometimes even with with dogs that are doing a lot of the training.
Watch at 02:42 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Teaching outline
More repetitions can reduce the quality of learning; watch the dog and change or end an unproductive sequence.
Watch an unsuccessful block and identify the first point where the handler changes the plan. Write what would be learned by another identical repetition and what a reset would change.
with her um drilling too many commands at once will make her want to be like frick this i'm out right i that that happened the other day where like you know like with with the the tree thing i was telling you about it was like commands and all of a sudden she was like yeah i'm done and she's like i'm on a long line i could just run right now
Watch at 11:22 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
try to get a try to get progress in without you know scarring the dogs it's always a good idea but just you know just i don't want her to learn that coming out here training is a miserable experience and i'm gonna drag you along in the heat right uh we don't want that
Watch at 08:48 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
command i'm not gonna like push it over and over we're kind of gonna like walk around for a minute
Watch at 01:14 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
But you do too many reps and you'll shut a dog down.
Watch at 07:07 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
I start to just want to drill. But the thing with her is if you don't love on her she her performance will go down.
Watch at 16:19 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Repeating an unsuccessful setup simply because it is on the practice plan.
Using a good result as an automatic reason to ask for many more.
What useful question would the next repetition answer?
Common mistakes
Repeating an unsuccessful setup simply because it is on the practice plan.
command i'm not gonna like push it over and over we're kind of gonna like walk around for a minute
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watch back up back up she smells you okay reset it start from further away
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Using a good result as an automatic reason to ask for many more.
But you do too many reps and you'll shut a dog down.
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Trainer notes
The trainers link dense repetition with fatigue, suppression, avoidance or a negative association with the outing. The inference is that spacing and a changed setup can preserve useful engagement. The exact dose differs; the corpus is not an experiment establishing a universal threshold.
with her um drilling too many commands at once will make her want to be like frick this i'm out right i that that happened the other day where like you know like with with the the tree thing i was telling you about it was like commands and all of a sudden she was like yeah i'm done and she's like i'm on a long line i could just run right now
Watch at 11:22 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
try to get a try to get progress in without you know scarring the dogs it's always a good idea but just you know just i don't want her to learn that coming out here training is a miserable experience and i'm gonna drag you along in the heat right uh we don't want that
Watch at 08:48 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
command i'm not gonna like push it over and over we're kind of gonna like walk around for a minute
Watch at 01:14 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
But you do too many reps and you'll shut a dog down.
Watch at 07:07 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
I start to just want to drill. But the thing with her is if you don't love on her she her performance will go down.
Watch at 16:19 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Source moments
Questions for intake
How does the dog’s engagement change during repeated practice, and what happens after a break?
Still to establish
Which owner practice examples best show spacing and recovery without turning a case-specific limit into a universal prescription?
Source limitations
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